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Close to antenna or close to PC?
Dan
2014-05-29 23:05:49 UTC
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Hi,

Someone suggest buy a 6 feet USB extension and plug USB just next to antenna. Is there a performance comparison somewhere on the web? Is there any trade off?

Thanks
Dan

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James Sharp
2014-05-29 23:28:02 UTC
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Post by Dan
Hi,
Someone suggest buy a 6 feet USB extension and plug USB just next to antenna. Is there a performance comparison somewhere on the web? Is there any trade off?
Thanks
Dan
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6 feet of USB or 6 feet of antenna coax? I don't see it making a
difference either way unless you're using 50% braid coverage bargain
basement coax that's been sitting in 10 feet of water.

My dongle is on the back of my SDR machine in my rack and I've got 35
feet of RG-6 QS run up to the antenna on the roof. I can pick up
everything from the local trunking system to ADS-B aircraft 200 miles away.

It's also easier to lightning protect (I live in Florida!) a run of coax
than a long run of USB.
Jay Salsburg
2014-06-01 22:04:15 UTC
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I have a 3 meter extension on my SDR. Since the data rate for these dongles
are not pushing the limits of USB, it is possible to use those long extender
cables. I bought mine at Amazon.

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Subject: Close to antenna or close to PC?

Hi,

Someone suggest buy a 6 feet USB extension and plug USB just next to
antenna. Is there a performance comparison somewhere on the web? Is there
any trade off?

Thanks
Dan

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j***@earthlink.net
2014-06-02 01:00:52 UTC
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In practical terms the current the dongles use is around 375 ms. USB2 current
allocations are coarse enough that the smallest allocation greater than 375 ma
is 500 ma. (This is also the largest normal allocation possible.) So you can
actually afford an efficient active extension as well as the dongle. The wires
are designed to provide rated voltages at the maximum rated current at the end
of a 5 meter extension. So you should be able to use one active extension plus
one passive extension both 5 meters long.

I experimented with this with a variety of DVB-T dongles. They all worked just
fine. Now I must decide whether I want a long coax (dongle inside with smaller
temperature variation and higher effective noise figure) or long USB cable
(dongle outside with WIDE temperature variation with lower effective noise
figure.) A third alternative exists, but is expensive. That violates the
spirit of the cheap dongles. {^_-} That option is an antenna preamp with
long coax. The cheap preamps roll off at about 900 MHz, making them deadly
for ADSB, of course. "How interested am I an ADSB?" I dunno. I played with
it a little and got bored soon enough seeing planes in a groove flying into
LAX and flying out of LAX over the mountains to my North East. (Remarkably
few flights seem to use ONT to my South.)

{^_^} Joanne/W6MKU
Post by Jay Salsburg
I have a 3 meter extension on my SDR. Since the data rate for these dongles
are not pushing the limits of USB, it is possible to use those long extender
cables. I bought mine at Amazon.
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Subject: Close to antenna or close to PC?
Hi,
Someone suggest buy a 6 feet USB extension and plug USB just next to
antenna. Is there a performance comparison somewhere on the web? Is there
any trade off?
Thanks
Dan
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Jay Salsburg
2014-06-05 23:41:40 UTC
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Reducing electrical noise, For this test: Nooelec RTL-SDR 820T stick
http://www.sdrformariners.blogspot.co.nz/2013/09/reducing-electrical-noise.h
tml

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From: Jay Salsburg [mailto:***@bellsouth.net]
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To: 'osmocom-***@lists.osmocom.org'
Subject: RE: Close to antenna or close to PC?

I have a 3 meter extension on my SDR. Since the data rate for these dongles
are not pushing the limits of USB, it is possible to use those long extender
cables. I bought mine at Amazon.

-----Original Message-----
From: osmocom-sdr-***@lists.osmocom.org
[mailto:osmocom-sdr-***@lists.osmocom.org] On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:06 PM
To: osmocom-***@lists.osmocom.org
Subject: Close to antenna or close to PC?

Hi,

Someone suggest buy a 6 feet USB extension and plug USB just next to
antenna. Is there a performance comparison somewhere on the web? Is there
any trade off?

Thanks
Dan

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